Abu Abdullah (asws) has said; ‘When the Qureysh went out to Badr, and the sons of Abdul Muttalib (as) went out with them, Talib (as) Bin Abu Talib (as) went out. So their poetic slogan shouters descended and they were shouting their poetic slogans, and Talib Bin Abu Talib (as) descended and shouted a poetic slogan saying, ‘O Lord (azwj)! But they are invading (militarily) with Talib, in a group from these groups, so Make him to be in a group which gets overcome and flees, which gets crucified without a crucifier, and Make him to be overcome without him overcoming’. So the Qureysh said, ‘This one will make us to be defeated, so send him back’. (And in another report from Abu Abdullah (asws) is that he was a Muslim (by then)’.